You Know What to Do. So Why Aren't You Doing It? | Daniel Schuler

Why Smart People Stay Stuck: The Identity Trap That's Holding You Back | Daniel Schuler

You know you should exercise, eat healthier, spend more time with your family, and stop scrolling social media...

So why don't you?

If knowledge isn't the problem, your identity might be.

In this powerful episode of the Crackin' Backs Podcast, Identity Coach Daniel Schuler reveals why so many successful people feel lost, struggle with self-sabotage, and never reach their full potential—not because they lack motivation, but because they're living from an outdated identity.

Learn how to discover your purpose, find your "why," build lasting confidence, break limiting beliefs, and stop letting social media define who you are.

In This Episode:

 Why smart people stay stuck
 How identity shapes every decision you make
 Why motivation fades but identity lasts
 How social media influences confidence and self-worth
 Finding your purpose and authentic "why"
 Building resilient, confident kids
 Why emotional intelligence is the ultimate human advantage in the age of AI
 Practical tools for lasting personal growth and transformation

Whether you're an entrepreneur, athlete, healthcare professional, parent, leader, or simply wondering, "Who am I becoming?" this conversation will challenge the way you think about mindset, success, mental health, leadership, and human potential.

About Daniel Schuler

Daniel Schuler is an Identity Coach and Emotional Intelligence Coach who helps individuals and organizations break through limiting beliefs, align their identity with their goals, and create lasting transformation through purpose-driven living and authentic leadership.

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Transcript

Dr. Spencer Baron (00:01.334)
Everyone listening already knows what they should be doing tomorrow, but they know they should work out, eat healthier, spend more time, and their kids. stop wasting time on social media. So there's the million-dollar question. If knowledge isn't the problem, what is? Today we're talking with identity coach Daniel Schuller about the invisible story that may be running your entire life without even knowing it. Daniel?

Welcome to the show. Glad to have you, man. I wanna ask you something though. Before we get started, what the heck is an identity coach?

Daniel Schuler (00:31.584)
What's going on? So happy to be here. I'm excited to excited to get into it.

Daniel Schuler (00:43.242)
Yeah. That's the that's the best question that I get asked the most. And the easiest way to put it is to preface what identity is, at least in my opinion. And it's who you think you are, who you think other people think that you are. And then you build a story around that, and then whether or not that story is true, it determines everything that you do in your life. And so for me, and you know, we spoke about this the other day, most people

you know, would look at their life as a quilt. So they have this blanket that's hanging up and it's a compilation of all those things that I just said. And when there's a problem, they take scissors, they try to cut it out.

And they try to patch it up and then they haven't stepped back in a while. And when they step back, they don't recognize the quilt. The identity is the thread that goes through all of those things. So your identity is who you are, regardless of, not because of. And so as an identity coach, I help people figure out the false narratives that they have about who they think they are, who they think other people think that they are. I help people figure out the origin point of where did you learn this belief, not you know.

We we make decisions every day and the question usually is what decision do I make? And the question is actually can I trust the system that I'm about to use to make the decision in the first place? And so I help people figure out the thread that's going through everything, those lies that they believe and then helping them step more into who they are and what they want to do based off of the truth rather than the perceptions that they're holding.

Dr. Spencer Baron (02:13.656)
Thanks for that. Everybody's got kind of a fascinating story of how they get started in their profession. Some out of turmoil, some out of inspiration. And I'm gonna ask you, how in the world did you get to this thing called an identity coach?

Daniel Schuler (02:29.553)
Yeah, it's it's quite something. If I tell if I told the whole story, we'd be here for quite a while. So I'll give you the I'll give you the flyover. But essentially I was an athlete my entire life. I wanted to do collegiate sports and then go into the professional sports. I played competitive golf for fifteen years. I also dabbled in soccer and various other sports, but golf was kind of always my main focus. And so that was kind of I started when I was four. And I said, you know what, I wanna be in the PGA. And so

As I was playing, I was also doing other things. You know, I'd dabbled in music a little bit, and you know, I was in jazz band in high school and all these things. And so then when I was 15, I got recruited into the entertainment industry. And so I started doing modeling and acting. And when I was 17, and I'm skimming through a lot of this, I had I had started to develop these false narratives myself. You know, where when you're an athlete, especially growing up,

And you're told the talent that you have. And you're not potentially seeing the results from the talent that you're told that you have. It's not I'm not talented enough. It's I'm not enough as a person. And so as I'm on this journey to try to be a professional athlete and then getting into the entertainment industry where all of your self-worth is built around how you look. And, you know, if it's not your skin, it's your hair. If it's not your hair, it's your face and your body and all these things at a very young age, mind you. I

I was like, okay, am I gonna do this Hollywood thing or am I gonna do golf? And so I ended up getting in a car accident when I was seventeen. I had to pull out of a golf tournament. and I ended up booking a job for Nike the week after that. And it was an interesting answer to prayer. You know, I'd been I'd been pursuing golf for so long and within a very short amount of time I had started seeing more success in the entertainment industry than the promise of what

Of what golf potentially could be. And so I ended up moving to Los Angeles, you know, to pursue that. I lived in Italy for a little bit. And then I came back from Italy when I was 20. And I had been in the entertainment industry for about five years at this point. And I just had enough. I was really insecure. I didn't like how I looked at myself. I didn't like how I looked at other people. And I I never got arrogant in the sense of.

Daniel Schuler (04:50.447)
I'm a I'm a model and I have to look this way and do these things, so you're worse than me. It was all I was always comparing myself. I would see another guy, wouldn't even know how old he was or whatever, and I was like, he's better looking, he's in better shape, he's probably gonna take a job from me, you know, and then I would look I had body dysmorphia starting at age fifteen, you know, because I would go to these I would go to these auditions against men and I would compare myself to men at fifteen. And the difference was was not quality or motivation or goals, it was ten years of life.

And so what happens is you s you just start to get all these beliefs about yourself. And so sort of in the interim, I got into direct sales and I fell in love with the idea of self-development and motivation and leadership and building teams and cultivating your brain. And from a very young young age, I was raised in a home, very fortunately, where you were sort of required to share how you felt because how can

Dr. Spencer Baron (05:19.971)
Hmm.

Daniel Schuler (05:48.18)
How can someone accurately respond to you if you're not communicating properly? And so I was able to kind of understand these emotional intelligence concepts from a young age, not exactly cognitively knowing what I was doing, if that makes sense. Like when you're a kid and you hear the word money, you might not know what money is, but you know that every time you hear it, something gets bought or dinner's on the table or there's an argument and you don't really know what it is, but you're kind of learning. And so that's how it was for me where

I feel this way, so you should know because if you don't know, you're not gonna treat me properly. And so I would have very adult conversations at a very young age. And so when I got into sales, that actually helped me a lot to build teams because I was able to pull people's true emotions out of themselves, cultivate a team, create cohesion within the team. Really liked, you know, again, self-development. And then I got certifications in neurolinguistic programming. And for those of you that don't know neurolinguistic programming, the easiest way to say it.

is it's like the invisible language process that your brain uses to filter the world. Everybody has it, everybody uses it. Not everybody knows that they have it or how to use it. And so you can get certified in how to use it and how to teach people how to use it. So I got certified in that. And then at 23, I started my own practice. And by that I mean I didn't know what the heck I was doing. And so, you know, another narrative that I had to overcome was who the heck?

Is gonna wanna listen to a 23-year-old life coach. I'm gonna get laughed into the street. And so I had to figure out an angle that would at least not get a door slammed in my face. And so, you know, I would say things like, Hey, here I I didn't call my identity myself an identity coach back then. It was more I'm an emotional intelligence coach, you know, coming off the NLP wave. It was just it was enough of an intriguing title where people thought they knew but they wanted to know more, and it wasn't super facetious, you know.

And so I would say, Hey, I I noticed you do this and this. Here's what I do. I would love to coach you for free. If you like it, you can hire me. And if not, you can make fun of the 23 year old that thought he knew what he was doing. So it's a win-win for you. The biggest cost will be 30 minutes of your time or whatever. And people loved it. And so, you know, I started doing it and someone would say, Hey, this was really helpful. My friend needs this. Excuse me. And so then I would get

Daniel Schuler (08:07.551)
Put in these group chats, hey, I heard you do whatever, do you do this? And I was like, Yeah. You know, do you do can you coach couples? Sure. Can you work with grief? Yep. You know, and so I just, and and even though I wasn't being paid, I was being paid in testimonials and experience. And so what I was able to do in a very short amount of time is my presentation changed. I would say, hey, so I've coached 50 people in the past three months. I didn't say 50 people have paid me.

Dr. Spencer Baron (08:19.682)
Ha

Daniel Schuler (08:37.683)
I said 50 people coach me. They don't need to know if I've been paid or not. They need to know that 50 people had worked with me and experienced some sort of transformation. And then the golden question came, how much do you charge? I had no idea. And so then I had to figure that out. And so anyway, long story short, over the past seven years, along with a bunch of other things that you know we might get into at some point, over the past seven years I've been blessed enough to coach right around 1200 people from ages 11 to 73.

Everything from nine figure CEOs, ex military kids, couples, high school students that don't know where they're gonna go, college students, professional athletes, semi pros who wanna go professional, ex professional athletes who don't know who they are outside of the sport, XYZ. And it's been it's been incredible. and so that's yeah, very very accelerated version.

Dr. Spencer Baron (09:28.876)
No, I love that story. I love that. Love the neurolinguistic part. Let me ask you, that you know, especially with social media out, you get all these images of people that are successful and all that. But you know what? What is really going on? You know, behind the success, they a lot I I almost get this gr moment of gratification when I find out that they are going through struggles too. So what are those internal struggles? How would you describe them that most people never see?

Daniel Schuler (09:32.606)
Yeah.

Daniel Schuler (09:49.651)
Yes.

Daniel Schuler (09:56.255)
Mm.

Hmm.

I would say obviously it's a case-by-case basis, but one of the things that I talk a lot about is the difference between being a certain way and seeming a certain way. And on social media specifically, the seeming part, we are masterful. We are so good at seeming a certain way. And I, you know, I had a little stint where I was doing some social media marketing with a friend way back in the day when

It was sort of just starting to get into brand partnerships where, you know, if you had a large large following, you could actually make money from partnerships. You know, now it's very common. But you'd have these people with one and a half million, two million followers crushing it on their page. And my buddy and I, if we didn't get them a $4,000 deal from some company, they don't pay their bills that month. And so you have this perception of these people doing really well, and really they're not. And

I think the internal struggles have to do with you get so deep into the image that you wa and and you're so disconnected from the reality that you would rather hold on to the image for the sake of perception.

Daniel Schuler (11:14.825)
Then break free from it, potentially lose whoever you created in that image to find yourself. And so there's questions of inadequacy, there's questions of unworthiness, there's disqualification that goes on. Well, if I if I stop seeming this way, people won't like me. But the truth is if people like you for the way that they see for the way that you seem, but not who you are, they actually don't like you. They like the version of you you're projecting.

And so they're liking a false version of you. And then they you're creating a false version in them. So their false version of themselves is liking the false version of you. And you're not creating room for authenticity. So to your point, I love creators who are real and who talk about their struggles. And I mean, I even I made a post the other day, and you know, I'm a Christian myself and I

Literally started the video by saying, I wish I could tell you that I trusted God all the time. But I but I I can't. And I don't. And and honest doubt is more important than fake performative, performativeness. And I love watching people doubt in real time for the sake of authenticity, not for views of, you know, they set up the camera and start crying, whatever it is. But people who wrestle, yeah, people who wrestle.

Dr. Spencer Baron (12:33.858)
Yeah.

Daniel Schuler (12:37.073)
I really, really admire.

Dr. Spencer Baron (12:41.358)
So somebody comes to you, they've identified that they've got an old identity and they're now, you know, twenty, thirty years into their life and how would someone rewrite their story? But how would you even know? Like, if you were okay, coach c I coach so coach us through what it would look like or what it would sound like if if if you don't mind. I mean I know everybody's different, but I mean just give me a structure.

Daniel Schuler (12:48.254)
Yeah.

Daniel Schuler (12:58.451)
Yeah.

Daniel Schuler (13:06.493)
Yeah. Of course. Yeah, yeah. And and and I think the biggest thing is I use language that's familiar for you, not familiar for me. Because if I come in, I'm like, we're gonna rewrite your identity, they don't really know what that means yet. And so the lowest hanging fruit that I do is the a couple questions I ask is what is an area that you need to experience transformation in?

Dr. Spencer Baron (13:23.607)
Right.

Daniel Schuler (13:35.998)
What is an area of your life where if you don't experience transformation here, you are not gonna like the trajectory? So that's part of helping them find the story without telling them that they're gonna tell me their story that they believe. Another one is what is an inconvenient behavior or mindset that you have that if you changed it, it would allow you to do something that you want to do or become someone that you want to be. And that's it. That's all I need.

I don't need context. I don't need, hey, what's been going on for the past, what are you struggling, you know? And so I also created this audit where it's a digital experience, takes about 20, 25 minutes, and the questions on there, most people have never asked themselves those questions in their whole life. So, you know.

It talks it goes into paradigms. So a paradigm is just a belief system that you have about something that causes the decisions that you make. So what is a paradigm that you would like to shift? What is the biggest fear currently holding you back? If you're goal setting, are you setting goals that you've set before? That's we never what goals do you want to do? That's not my question. Are the goals that you're about to set, number one, are they yours? Or are they coming from another version of you that you were told you were supposed to set those goals?

Because your purpose, and not to go on a tangent here, but what is the thing we hear the most from coaches right now? And this is not against coaches, this is just in general. It's you have to find your purpose. You have to find your why. If you find your why, it I'm gonna push back so hard on that. Because if you find your purpose from a false identity, it's not your purpose. So you have to know the who before you can get to the why. Because if you don't know the who, the why doesn't matter. You can achieve the why and feel nothing.

Because the person that achieved it wasn't you. And so when these people come to me, usually again, they're referrals. So, hey, I have a friend, he's struggling with anxiety, you know, can you help him out? And it all and it always starts very basic and they think it's a they think the surface level is the level. You know, they come in and they're like, I just don't want to be anxious about you know, p public speaking, or I don't I don't like the way that

Daniel Schuler (15:49.292)
my relationship trajectory is headed. And most of the time they're just reliving the experience that taught them that in their childhood. And they don't know that yet, but I do. And so I don't inform, I extract. And they're the ones doing the extracting. Or I'm the one doing the extracting, but they're the ones doing the discovery. Because if I'm the one that discovers it, it's not powerful for you. Big whoop, the co the coach figured it out. You know? But if you're the one

Where I ask you a question and I sit and I don't say anything, and you have to I know the question to get you there. And I usually end up knowing the answer, but that doesn't matter. So I ask you the question and you go, simplest question that throws people off. Where'd you learn that? well, you know, I can't do this because when I when I do this, this will happen. Where'd you learn that? And then you just all of them do the same thing, and you'll know this, the NLP guide, they'll they'll go.

Dr. Spencer Baron (16:48.974)
Yeah. Up and to the left. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Daniel Schuler (16:50.503)
Yeah, and they're like and so I'm watching them try to I can watch them subconsciously go through their timeline trying to find well no ma no I don't think it was then but and and I'll say okay tell me about that. Well what where'd you just go? Well, you know, I was seventeen, I was sitting here, and and well okay, what happened? X Y Z. Okay, what did you start to believe? This, this, this. And where'd you learn that? They go back further. And then we get to age seven.

It's almost it's almost every time. Yeah.

Dr. Spencer Baron (17:26.754)
You know, there there was another thing that when we went through the neurolinguistic program tra you know, the training with Tony Robbins, it was there was a question that he asked. He goes, you know, and I did this to a patient yesterday, even he goes, tell me about a time that was like the greatest moment in your entire life, something that empowered you, you felt masterful, you everything like that. Nine times out of ten, people will not have an answer.

Daniel Schuler (17:46.59)
Yeah.

Dr. Spencer Baron (17:53.58)
Now I flip the switch on them and I go, all right, tell me about the worst, shittiest moment in your entire life. Boom, they got the answer right there. and and then this happened and then this h why why is that? Why would do people it's it's trauma that they're so focused on. Anyway, gosh.

Daniel Schuler (18:00.087)
they can't stop talking about it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and and just to touch on that super briefly, people find comfort in identifying with their trauma. And so what they'll do, and I I I made another post about this the other day, you personifying your trauma and talking about it.

does not mean that you've healed from it. And I think that a lot of people think that the ability to consistently talk about the thing that used to hurt them is freedom, but it's really just reality that you haven't broken free from the story and you're trying to become familiar with it and it's a false sense of a coping mechanism that you have.

Dr. Spencer Baron (18:51.31)
I love I love this. All right, Terry. I I wanna b I'm gonna back off for a minute. I'm getting I'm getting full body goosebumps here. You know how that goes, right?

Dr. Terry (18:52.784)
And once his goosebumps get going, we'll be here for an hour. So

Daniel Schuler (18:53.459)
Yeah.

Daniel Schuler (19:04.362)
Yeah. Gonna have to start dry needling.

Dr. Spencer Baron (19:06.883)
Yeah.

Dr. Terry (19:08.344)
S so just this weekend I heard it from four different people and so I think it's really relevant for this conversation. With AI getting more and more powerful, people are turning chat told me this and chat told me this and chat told me I I heard it from four different people. And and these are young people and older people. They're turning to chat for all their life lessons and their goals. What human qualities

Daniel Schuler (19:30.622)
Yeah.

Dr. Terry (19:34.99)
become more valuable when our subconscious is going to chat.

Daniel Schuler (19:40.692)
Hmm, what a great question. I I had this discussion the other day, and I'm gonna tell you a theory that I have. First of all, you brought up a good point. I believe it might have changed, but for a little bit, the number one thing that chat was used for was mental health.

Dr. Spencer Baron (19:46.478)
Yeah.

Daniel Schuler (20:00.193)
And I can't remember how long or whatever it is, so I can get if someone wants to fact check, that's fine. But it shows how many people want help and how many people feel like they can't talk about it. Because they're going to a software. So to your point, my belief is that think about this. I have this phone here. And just for visual sake and for the audio, I'll try to explain it. so this is a brain, let's say, and then I have my brain.

And I'm sharing my brain with this software. In return, I am adopting the principles of this brain. So my theory is that at some point, all we're gonna be, if we don't catch this early on, is a regurgitation of the software. And so we will be talking and we will be personifying AI because our thoughts are actually the AI's thoughts. And it'll be the way where we don't become

robots in the sense of you know I have a microchip in my brain or whatever but my thoughts are no longer my own because I've been so downloaded with the way that chat thinks the way that chat responds the way that chat formulates information and so the qualities will be the ability to separate the qualities will be intuition making inferences seeing corners that don't require a prompt you know like I can figure things out with without a prompt

You know, chat can't read body language. Chat can't see me. Chat can't hear me. Chat can only read what I say. Maybe that'll change at some point, you know, because I know that there's the development, they're making avatars and all this, you know, whatever. but I would say so some of those are those are some of the main qualities and the ability to empathize from experience rather than a software.

Using data to know what empathy is.

Daniel Schuler (22:01.128)
You know. So yeah.

Dr. Spencer Baron (22:03.382)
Interesting. don't worry, I'm sure he'll get back on here. So I think that it you know, that with the advent of AI, yeah, th i it can help to some degree, but there is, you know, such a multitude of

Daniel Schuler (22:08.724)
Yeah, yeah, okay.

Dr. Spencer Baron (22:23.378)
of input, sensory input in, you know, identifying someone's physiology, like you had said, you know, there and and we also understand in NLP, Neurolinguistic Programming, that, you know, the words you say are what, only five percent of the communication. Whereas how do you you know, you're just getting words on a screen in AI, whereas being in front of a live person that's able to facilitate

Daniel Schuler (22:30.048)
Mm-hmm.

Daniel Schuler (22:40.927)
Yeah.

Dr. Spencer Baron (22:53.026)
you know you know, and and coach you. You know, there's a such a I I I don't see the I don't see the the greatest opportunity in AI whereas being like you'll in other words, you'll always have a job because you know the

Daniel Schuler (22:56.821)
Yeah.

Daniel Schuler (23:11.326)
Yeah. Well yeah, let's yeah, let's hope. But but but yeah, I I think, you know, an another point would be there's no glue in AI. And what I mean by that is there is a glue there is a relational glue that occurs when I let's say I'm talking to Doctor Terry and he asks me a really deep question and I sit there and I process it with him. I haven't given him an answer, I've restored a relational

experience versus him looking at a screen and getting told words that are accurate. Here's the other thing is chat's very accurate. We don't need accuracy, we need intimacy. And when we start to compromise that, we will begin to deviate from that relational glue that holds all of us together. We're that's why I can look at a a child suffering and cry. I'm not going

Data, what is that? That is a child that is crying. I'm feeling the sadness. I'm not looking at the sadness, I'm feeling it. I'm able to process that. And that's something that I you know, and I'm sure the AI software people will disagree. But that's something that I don't think AI ever is gonna get to.

Dr. Spencer Baron (24:28.334)
Terry, you were gonna ask a question about the books and the podcast.

Dr. Terry (24:28.908)
I mean yeah, well I I'm also intrigued because people don't have conversations anymore. They'll a question will come up and instead of talking about the question, they Google it or they ask chat. And and you know, or they're watching something. We were at an anniversary and we and the waiter came up to us and said, Hey, can I take a picture of you guys at your anniversary? And I said, We actually left our phones in our room

Daniel Schuler (24:44.574)
Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Dr. Terry (24:59.006)
And w I and I and and I said, the and I said and I and I and I told him, I go, my the best gift I can give my wife is to be present. And and the guy didn't know what to do and he looked around and goes, You guys are the only ones that don't have your phones And and it was it was kinda sad, you know, and that and then or you'd be at a a table and you see all these

Daniel Schuler (25:00.992)
Well why'd you do that?

Dr. Spencer Baron (25:02.262)
Yeah.

Daniel Schuler (25:20.096)
Mm.

Dr. Terry (25:23.832)
people and instead of having conversations, they're talk they're having conversations with chat instead of the human being in front of And I and I wanna ask you, with all the information out there, we have so much information, books, podcasts, internet, everything. Yeah so if all the information is out there, why are we so stuck?

Daniel Schuler (25:27.988)
Yeah, yeah.

Yep.

Daniel Schuler (25:44.481)
Because of what and I know this is kind of a quick answer, but I this is my this is my realm. It's because of it's because of what we think will happen once we get it. It's because the expectation that we have. The only reason that you go to chat, that you go to all this data is because of who you think you'll become once you get it. And if that is misaligned, you'll get the data and still be stuck. To your point.

The rate of antidepressants that are being prescribed and the rate of depression are not an inverse correlation. It's the same. It should be inverse. If I'm prescribing more drugs that are supposed to help with this problem, it should be shifting and it's not. If the rate of the money that is being dumped into the self help industry is as astronomically high as it's ever been, how is it that people are more confused and lost than ever before?

That also doesn't make sense. And so I would say the reason that we're still stuck is because we are going out to try to fix what's in instead of going in first to discover what's needed out. You can't solve an internal problem with an external solution. I can't read a book and heal my trauma. I can learn about what trauma is.

I can learn about patterns, I can learn about all that stuff, but until I take the information and I make it truth and experience for me, nothing happens. My entire life is built around Romans 12, 2, which says, do not be conformed to the patterns of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind so that you can discern what the will of God is. What is good, what is perfect, what is righteous. You can't have transformation without renewal.

So you have all these people that are trying to transform and they're not renewing the thing that broke them in the first place.

Dr. Terry (27:40.427)
Well, let me ask you this. Do you think people are too quick to look for the answer and not enjoy the journey to get to the answer? I mean it's almost like th when they when they ask a question they go to Google immediately to get the answer. And that's like to me, I was used to be a big high altitude mountaineer. And that's like somebody taking a helicopter to the summit. Yet the best part about mountaineering is not the summit, it's the journey to get to the summit. And so I think the g

Daniel Schuler (28:04.426)
Yeah. It's collapsing on the top knowing everything that you did to get there. Yeah.

Dr. Terry (28:09.473)
Yeah. And I think the Google or the sna the chat takes away th the conversation that may have nothing to do with the question but had but has to do with everything about the journey. Do you see d where do you think that disconnect people got of not going through the process of conversation and just seeking answers?

Daniel Schuler (28:28.968)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Again, you know, and this is going to be kind of repetitive, and Dr. Spencer will know this. Like Tony talks about this all the time. Your entire experience is based off of definitions and meaning. And it's because of how we have defined what space means, how we have defined what silence means, how we have defined what not knowing something immediately means. Not knowing something immediately does not mean ignorance.

It does not mean that you are unintelligent. It means that you just don't know something yet. But we have to know. We have to know everything. Because if I don't know, then I'm gonna miss this and I'm gonna miss this. And people are gonna think. So the definition and the meaning that we have placed on the pauses has completely robbed us of the power of them. I played piano for eight years, I did recitals. The most important note in the song is the one that you're not supposed to play.

Daniel Schuler (29:31.346)
If I come in too early, I've I ruin moment. If I wait, if I wait too long, because there is, you know, there is a waiting too long, then they're like, right before you give them anxiety, you hit the note again. You know? And they're like, my gosh, did he forget what he was gonna play? Vla blah. And so we have forgotten how to play the pauses.

Dr. Spencer Baron (29:31.502)
Explain that.

Dr. Spencer Baron (29:45.39)
Interesting. Good. Yeah.

Dr. Spencer Baron (29:58.25)
All right, here's a big one. Parents, kids. We want to raise confidence kids. And I know that Dr. Terry ha and well so do I ha have that issue with the what do they call it? The the award the the trophy the participation trophy that every player gets, right? But you know, my I I have to tell I have to share this with the audience and and you all are aware of this, but

Daniel Schuler (30:02.239)
Yeah.

Daniel Schuler (30:13.374)
Yeah, yeah. gosh.

Dr. Spencer Baron (30:23.402)
My my twenty six year old son Hunter, man, he he he said something to me the other day that was profound because this guy works hard, man. And he said to me, he goes, Dad, I heard this the other day, tough times create strong men, strong men create easy times, easy times create weak men, right? Weak men create tough times and he goes, That jeez, I just got goosebumps. Many many don't understand, but you have to raise a warrior.

Daniel Schuler (30:40.412)
Easy times create weak men. Weak men create hard times. Yeah.

Daniel Schuler (30:53.28)
Mm.

Dr. Spencer Baron (30:53.478)
And I realize that nowadays that's a a a rare commodity amongst kids. Why why is that? And what can parents do? 'Cause they're well intentioned, they realize that but see what how are they getting in the way of all this?

Daniel Schuler (31:12.32)
By not fixing their own false narrative first.

Dr. Spencer Baron (31:14.424)
Yeah.

Daniel Schuler (31:16.99)
Like you you can't expect your kid to grow into the person that you never were. And I'm not talking about achievement or accolade wise, like where you have the you know, the football dad who's like, You're gonna be more than I ever was, son, you know, whatever. It's it's and there's a guy named Case Kenny. he he lives out in Florida as well and and he's

Big on like the language of optimism and all these things. And one of the things that he says that I love, that I agree with, that I didn't realize I'd been talking about for so long is we need to stop rewarding kids for their accolades and start awarding them for their character traits and their qualities. And so instead of saying congrats on the seven touchdowns, which it's not either or, but it's it's along with.

Dr. Spencer Baron (32:05.217)
Yes.

Daniel Schuler (32:05.286)
So, hey, you're not, you didn't do great today because you scored. You did great today because you were a good teammate, because you ran your heart out, because you stayed and cleaned up the water bottles afterwards, you know, affirming their qualities because those they're every athlete, it's a hundred percent, every athlete becomes an ex-athlete. 100% of the time. Every athlete becomes an ex-athlete. So if you you will hold on to what you learn is good and true about yourself, and you will be limited.

To whatever that is. Your confidence will only be as high as how good the thing your identity is in. So if my identity is in my money, the only time I am good is when my money is good. If my identity is in my performance, the only time I am good is when my performance is doing well, et cetera, et cetera. And so I think the disconnect is parents are using their own false narrative to try to navigate the kids' false narrative. One of y'all has to have a true narrative in order for this to work.

One of you. So how so there's a book called It Ends With Us, but it starts with you. Like the that generational trauma and the generational curses and patterns can stop with you, but it only stops if you start understanding it's there. Where every time your kid comes home from practice, for some reason you're angry. And you don't tell him, but you kind of there's these nonchalant patterns that you use, or maybe

You get upset at a random time that doesn't make sense. And instead of you sitting back and going, okay, not what are they making me feel, but what am I starting to believe about myself? Nobody makes you feel anything. Someone says something, and based off of your own belief about yourself, you decide if it has authority in your life or not.

Dr. Spencer Baron (33:56.92)
You know, I realize later on in life about identity and how valuable it is or how detrimental it is, and I often and this is for the listening audience, I often tell my kids, I go, you know,

You you can know when somebody's identity is their car, their hair, their money, their their spouse, their 'cause if you if you scratch their car, they freak out and right? Or or if if you know the if if they they're going bald or something like that, you know, and they've always had this long, beautiful hair, they're freaking out looking at, you know, the need for hair plugs and things like that.

Daniel Schuler (34:22.847)
Yeah.

Dr. Spencer Baron (34:40.303)
know, i I I tell my boys all the time, I go, don't let you know the ident like my one son is a is a genius, you know, and I go, I don't care how freaking smart you are, I don't care what your IQ is, if you don't have good social skills, you ain't going nowhere. So don't let that be our identity. Because one day you might have dementia. So right? So what can a parent do from your perspective

Daniel Schuler (34:56.648)
Mm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. There you go.

Dr. Spencer Baron (35:06.155)
Well they're first you know, w wha what can they do for themselves that they can help so they could help their kid?

Daniel Schuler (35:11.348)
Yeah.

Daniel Schuler (35:15.996)
I would have them truly sit down and evaluate the dynamic between the relationship of them and their and their kid. And if they're brutally honest, what part of the dynamic can change? And how can they be the ones that change it? Because, again, without knowing specific details, we we learn from experience or observation. Right?

And so before, especially before age 14, 14 is kind of around the time where we cognitively become aware of what's happened in the past eight or seven years or whatever it is. And then when we start kind of having our own thoughts about, this is happening, and I actually I have autonomous thought. I can think for myself, I can make decisions. That's kind of around when that happens. And so you build this, you build this dynamic between you and your kid. And so you need to know.

What situations kick you out of who you are? When your kid does, when your kid forgets something, do you get super angry or do you invite him to remember? When your kid doesn't do what they're supposed to do, do you lash out at them or do you invite them to remember? It's invitation. Now, I'm not saying there shouldn't be chastisement, I'm not saying there shouldn't be consequences, but the premise will change the experience. I got spanked growing up. And

What my parents would do before they spanked me, and I have incredible par parents, I'm so thankful for them. They just celebrated their 36th wedding anniversary. It's so I'm I'm so bl my dad's an immigrant, and they just have had this, they have a crazy story. And but when they would spank me, they would send me to my room first, you know, and I'd be in there sometimes being a little, you know, a little craphead and kind of laughing because I thought it was funny.

But they'd leave me in there for like five, ten, fifteen minutes. They'd come in and they would say, Do you know why we're punishing you? And, you know, if I said no, they would say, Okay, well, here's why. And I would usually no. or I would say, Yeah, it's because of this, and then they would say, Do you know that I love you? And I'd say, Yes. And then they would pray with me, and then they would spank me, and then they would pray again. And so I know that sounds funny.

Daniel Schuler (37:40.308)
But it was it was very healing in the sense of when your punishment matches the crime and there's there's healthy justice, you start to appreciate it.

And so for these parents, there's such a big fear of being the out-of-touch parent and like the non-cool parent. Cool parents let their kids do whatever they want. Cool parents let me have an iPad. Cool parents let me watch whatever I want with no restriction. I started watching R-rated movies when I was eight. I had a book. Like all of these things where the kids are the ones that are the parents. So be a parent. I'm not saying be authoritative. I'm not saying

Be dictatorial. You freaking had the kid. That is your child. They are not your father. So when a kid there's no negotiating.

Like, if you're gonna negotiate, have it be over what you're gonna have for dinner. It's not, hey, you have a 30-minute the okay. I'll make this specific because this is where I was gonna go anyway. For parents and kids and for everybody. You need to stop downgrading your boundaries to suggestions, and you need to upgrade your suggestions to boundaries. That is one of the easiest ways to figure out and establish respect, heal the dynamic.

And what's gonna happen is the kid again is observing and experiencing. And so if you are compromising your own boundaries, why would your kid honor yours? If your kid is consistently watching you do things that you said that you weren't gonna do, say things that you're not supposed to say, how are you gonna turn around and tell them to do the same thing? And what are they gonna say? Well, I saw mommy do this. Okay, well that's different because I'm I she's mommy.

Daniel Schuler (39:37.406)
And then we learn that authority is status. So then at our young age we go, status equals authority. I need status. Guess what? You get status, you're still an asshole, excuse my language. But you you c you will pursue the thing that you think you need to get to be who you were told you're supposed to be.

And then finally I'm thirty, I have the big job, I have the car, and nobody wants to be around me. What happened? I thought I was supposed to get status.

Dr. Spencer Baron (40:13.549)
So so good and I I am so so concerned about

The rate of divorce, which turns into the parent that's the enabler, because they want to win. They want to win the kid. And so the amount of enabling that goes on that we see is extraordinary. And then if you're an athlete, it turns into your athletic relationships, you know, you become like you expect everything, you know, and have no boundaries. And what I realized with some of these athletes.

Daniel Schuler (40:23.22)
Yeah.

Daniel Schuler (40:28.084)
Yeah. Yeah.

Daniel Schuler (40:45.909)
Yeah.

Dr. Spencer Baron (40:50.891)
that they would be on multi-million dollar contracts and jeopardize them by getting in trouble for any of the abuses, alcohol, drugs, spousal, you know, and so on. And th what I what I didn't realize is these big kids don't understand consequences.

Daniel Schuler (41:10.164)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Spencer Baron (41:10.379)
They don't like like Terry or I, we go, well if we do this, you know, ten steps from now, this could happen. So I better not do this. They don't have that. It's like absent from their their thought process. So that's where the enabling has come from.

Daniel Schuler (41:18.002)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Daniel Schuler (41:24.298)
Yeah.

Yeah. And it's tough and it's tough for a kid when he becomes a commodity to be traded. Like, okay, you're fifty you're fifty fifty? Why do why does dad get me sixty percent of the time and mom get me forty percent of the time? Am I supposed to love him sixty percent more? You know, and so so and I've I I had I had a client who was seventy three and he came to me this is when I was talking about the surface level. He came to me because he didn't like how angry he got when he played golf.

Dr. Spencer Baron (41:31.635)
right? Especially now. Yeah.

Daniel Schuler (41:55.699)
And I was like, I was like, this is gonna be good. And so obviously golf was where it showed up. And so he was describing the shot that he hit, and it was a good shot. And it didn't have a good result. And he described it as a stupid shot. And I said, When did it become stupid? Before or after you hit it? Because he described it as well, it was a stupid decision. I said, When did it become a stupid decision? And and then I said, What did you believe about yourself when you hit that shot? That I was this. And I said, Where'd you learn that?

Age twelve, dude.

Daniel Schuler (42:30.428)
And verbatim he remembers everything that his dad told him. And he was he had such a bad relationship with his dad. His and mind you, his dad has been passed away for fifteen years. And he was playing a word game and one of the words was father and he couldn't fill it out.

And so we did this exercise with him and whatever. And like two weeks later, he texted me and said, Hey, I was at a I think his like grandchild somet second grade something and they were playing a spelling game and they had to write father and he wrote it down.

Dr. Spencer Baron (43:17.101)
But yeah.

Daniel Schuler (43:17.598)
Yeah. And because of golf. Like that's what I'm saying. People come to me, they're like, I just wish I wasn't as angry playing golf. I'm like, this is gonna be so good You know? So, yeah. All right.

Dr. Spencer Baron (43:25.747)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. huh. Alright, here's a test for ya. If Daniel could sit down with his eighteen year old self, what what's the fr

Daniel Schuler (43:34.432)
I'd punch him in the forehead.

Dr. Spencer Baron (43:42.807)
W What's the f what's the first conversation Daniel would have with himself?

Daniel Schuler (43:44.178)
man.

Daniel Schuler (43:51.198)
The first thing I would tell him is you have no idea what God is gonna be protecting you from.

Daniel Schuler (44:02.538)
'Cause I'd when I look back, there's multiple times that I should have been in jail, potentially died, gotten caught doing things I shouldn't have done. And that's what I would say. There was there was not to get into a tangent, but I was this was a couple of months ago and I was praying and

My prayer looks a little different. I just say, like, God, what do you want me to know? What do you want me to do? And he's like, Why don't you just lay down for a second? And it reminds me of there's a character in the Bible named Elijah, and God tells him to take a nap and he wakes up and there's like a meal by his head. I'm like, that sounds pretty good. And so So I lay down and it's an image of me, and I'm eight years old, and I'm eight years old body-wise, so that I know I'm a little boy, but I have my 31-year-old brain.

And he's walking with me down these down this road and at each part of the road I'm seeing these pockets of my life. And well like go into a club when I was nineteen and I'm like, What are we doing here? And he's like, Look where I was And he's standing in the corner, making sure that I don't get blackout drunk and go home with someone I shouldn't and get in a car or whatever.

And then another one, I'm in the car moving to Texas, crying my eyes out. I just broke up with a girl I thought I was gonna marry. And he said, Turn around in the car and he's sitting in the back seat.

And so he takes he's taking me through all of the places in my life that I didn't know where he was. And he's showing me where he was. So if I was to sit down with my eighteen year old self, I literally would only say, Keep your eyes fixed on the Lord because you have no idea what he's gonna get you through, and you're gonna need him more than you can ever imagine.

Dr. Terry (45:53.846)
And what do you think your eighteen year old self would have said back then for that conversation?

Daniel Schuler (45:59.073)
For sure, bro. I think in all honesty, because I was never I was never a punk. You know, I was never I didn't I never was hot headed, I never was haughty. I was always very reflective and philosophical, and I I I got introduced to very deep theological concepts when I was young, so I kinda

Dr. Spencer Baron (46:01.463)
Ha ha ha ha.

Daniel Schuler (46:25.33)
One of the things that I like to say that I can do is I can take things that are very complex and simplify them for people, but keep the complexity, if that makes sense. So I don't compromise the complexity with the language that I use. And so I think my eighteen year old self, it would have it would have probably rattled me a little bit and it would have made me ask, Well, what am I about to what am I gonna do? Like what am I about to do that I'm gonna need perfec pro protection from? And I would maybe start overanalyzing and

you know, becoming hyper aware of everything that I was doing or or whatever. But I always appreciated feedback from older I always got a along with older people. Always growing up. I would be fifteen having an hour long conversation with a 40 year old, holding it, you know. And then funny enough, when I was living in LA I'd be, you know, eighteen, nineteen, twenty and I'd you know, I'd meet a woman and start talking and, you know, really long conversation and

She'll want to go grab a drink. She's like 32. She's How old are you? I was like, I can't drink yet. How old are you? I was like 19. And so I just always gravitated towards either young people who have an old mind or old or older people who have that level of maturity. Because I've also met, dude, some of these kids, because of AI and because of all these things, they are light years ahead of the maturity level. So I I think the other thing is.

We can't demonize our kids and expect them to be encouraged. We can't demonize the things that they're doing, project false scenarios. this is the worst generation ever. They care the least, they do the least, blah blah like, and then try to pull them into the best version of themselves. What the heck is that? That's the most hypocritical thing we can do. You know, and so we need to invite them into the truth rather than project our version of what we think the truth should be.

Because we can't be shocked when these kids are struggling because we'll say, hey, the most important thing is a degree. And then they don't get into the college and we go, well, it's actually not that important. Well, is it or isn't it?

Daniel Schuler (48:28.8)
Well, you don't have to be the best player on the team. why didn't you get MVP? Well, I thought it didn't matter. Well, I mean it does a little bit. We're so confusing to these kids, man. And then we get and then we're mad at them. It's it's heartbreaking.

Dr. Terry (48:45.57)
Yeah, well I always used to say that when you become a parent you don't get a owner's manual when we fail more than we succeed. And and and then we we we know we're failing so but we take our anger out on the kids in instead of out our own self. What do you yeah. What do you what do you do when you have the the kid that is the introvert that holds everything in and on the surface you think they're fine but inside they're dying. And then you have the extrovert who's wears everything on

Daniel Schuler (48:51.988)
Yeah.

Daniel Schuler (48:59.252)
Yeah. Or our spouse.

Dr. Terry (49:15.466)
on the on the extra but inside they're they're scared to death. I mean it's like two different people. You have the one that's comes across bold and powerful inside he's dying and the other one that comes across as insecure and actually he's very introverted.

Daniel Schuler (49:23.424)
Mm.

Daniel Schuler (49:31.733)
Yeah. I would I would say both of them are most likely trying to achieve the same thing. You know, and every every behavior NLP again. Every behavior has a positive intent. Not a positive result, a positive intent. Even the the serial, you know, on a liver, the serial killer goes around. His his intent is to get attention and to satisfy

Some kind create as diluted, as as distorted and bad as it is, his intent is for himself. Positive intent, terrible result. So the question we need to ask is: Do I know what this kid thinks he's doing by acting this way? Does he know what he like as an and and then the other thing, removing the label altogether? We don't call them introverts or extroverts. Because then we create a filter.

So the whole, and I'm not saying these aren't real, but like ADHD, ADD, their Zodiac sign, their Enneagram, their Myers Briggs, their Archetype. There's so many freaking limiting filters where you don't go, how do I do this? You go, how do I do this as a as a two-wing seven who's an ENFP, who's a Sagittarius, who's also got ADHD and is an extrovert. Bro, give me a break. Just how do you do it? You know? And so I

Dr. Terry (50:57.591)
All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Daniel Schuler (50:58.594)
and and s I wanna I wanna answer the question, you know, by s by saying do they can we get them into a place where we help them figure out what they think they're doing? Pos what is the positive intent by them acting this way? They're hiding from something.

The introvert's hiding from something, the extrovert's hiding from something. They're afraid of something. They're afraid of being found out, or they're afraid of being exposed, or they're afraid of something. So do they know what they're afraid of? Do they know what they think they're doing by trying to act this way to get these responses? Class clown, probably getting neglected at home. My mom's a teacher. Any kid that acts out, she gives him a task. She's like, clearly he has no responsibility at home. He doesn't get attention at home. I'm gonna make him a responsible adult in the classroom. Hey.

You have so much energy. Would you mind doing me a huge favor and passing out these papers to the class? And do you actually want to do it the rest of the week? my gosh, yeah, that'd be great. And then they don't talk again.

Dr. Terry (51:57.901)
All right, on that same topic we've been talking about tr creating great men and great un and these young boys. Let's flip the switch and put the same thing into a young girls and young women.

Daniel Schuler (52:08.926)
Yeah. In what in what regard? Like what

Dr. Terry (52:11.649)
Well, you see a lot of like you'll see a lot of young women walking around with their phones and and they they're they're scowling and then they turn their phone on and they're flipping their hair and they're punching their lips and they're standing a certain way and and then they take their picture. I mean, d do you think the social media is as hard on boys or harder on girls or what's your flip w that you see with this identity when it comes especially the word identity, you're an identity coach. What's who struggles with identity more? The young girls, the young men, or is it pretty equal just completely different?

Daniel Schuler (52:20.862)
Yeah. Yeah.

Daniel Schuler (52:35.252)
Yeah, yeah.

Daniel Schuler (52:42.176)
Pretty equal but completely different. And they're doing what they learn.

So we can only really do

What we've learned. You know, and you and you don't do what you know and you don't do what you want. You do what you believe in that moment. So for them, here's and this is an example of why it's equal but different. I can currently go on Instagram and I can scroll, and in one minute, I can see a public shooting, I can see a criminal getting arrested.

I can see a video of a dog eating a banana. I can see a girl dressed explicitly doing not good things. And I can see a beautiful view of a mountain in Switzerland. And I can see someone getting hit by a car and an ex games person hitting a trick in a minute. And it's all in the same category.

And so what do I learn? This is all the same. Think about how crazy it is that I can be scrolling and one minute I'm looking at Nigeria needs your help. There's an absolute genocide going on. And the next one is some girl dancing to a TikTok song. The next minute. Not the next second. And you just

Daniel Schuler (53:57.961)
And so we do every everybody is living in their own pattern and their own program and they learn that somewhere and they learn that somewhere and then they learn that that meant something about them. So the reason they do those things, the reason that guys and girls and whatever do things is because of what they think it means when they do it and who they think they'll become by doing it and what other people will think about them when they do it.

And they will do it until whatever narrative that they have created is fulfilled. The problem is it will never be fulfilled because it's always gonna be changing based off of what someone tells them to do next.

Dr. Terry (54:33.441)
All right. So with all this information for the person listening to it, when they wake up tomorrow believing what's one trick or one thing d that you can teach them that they can change their narrative and start a different path of identity?

Daniel Schuler (54:54.592)
That's a good question.

Daniel Schuler (55:03.525)
I would offer

them to say if nothing changed in the next ten years, truly,

Am I on the path that would lead me to where I want to be, who I want to become and what I want to do? And if not, what needs to change? And in that, what needs to change, have I known that that's needed to change? Like is there is there a certain pattern where there's a there's so many people that are really mature in every area except this one, whether it's love, money, conflict?

And it's because we act the age that we were last hurt that haven't healed yet. And we haven't healed yet. And so consider your trajectory. If you don't like the trajectory that you're currently on, what needs to change? And yeah, is that is that something that's needed to change for a while or is it new? And do you know what it would look like to change? And can and then the last thing would be can you actually define

the words that you're using to describe what you're pursuing and who you are. I want to be successful. Okay, what's success? Well I wanna be someone who loves. What is love? I wanna be someone who is generous. Okay, what is generosity? Generosity is giving whatever you have. Where'd you learn that?

Daniel Schuler (56:36.416)
Okay, what what is what is considered what you have? Is it everything that you have or is it some things that you have? Can you define the words and can you define and do you know where they originated, the words that you use to describe yourself and the things you want to do?

And sit with that.

Dr. Spencer Baron (57:01.729)
Well, I will tell you, one of the most painful exercises, emotional, mental exercises I ever did was the Dickens strategy. It's based on the Charles Dickens novel Scrooge. And he you know, Tony asks you to write down five things that would limit you in the next year, five years, tenure. And boy, I'll tell you, he ca we didn't realize like six hours went by and I was I was hysteric.

Daniel Schuler (57:11.242)
Yep.

Daniel Schuler (57:28.02)
Yeah.

Dr. Spencer Baron (57:30.946)
Hysterical in tears. The rest of the it right? That's what I was just gonna say. It sounded sounded like people were getting murdered. And it was, Terry, I'm telling you, it was if you think about the thing, the the five things, or even one thing that limits you from reaching your specific desired results in life, and that that stuck with you for five, ten, twenty, whatever. And you look at yourself in the mirror and you hear what you're saying, you know how you're doing, right?

Daniel Schuler (57:31.964)
Yeah. And it sounds like hell in there too.

Crazy.

Daniel Schuler (57:56.425)
Yeah. Look what you did. Look what yeah. it's brutal. It's brutal.

Dr. Spencer Baron (57:59.854)
right. I anyway. What so far, unbelievable, but we still have the five rapid fire questions for you. Let's see, ready question simple, question number one. I want you to fill in the blanks. Ready? Success is

Daniel Schuler (58:08.894)
Yes. Perfect. Let's go.

Daniel Schuler (58:18.176)
Okay.

The progressive realization of a worthy ideal.

Dr. Spencer Baron (58:28.621)
Terry, I told you this guy was great, right? All right. It's still it's beautiful. Question number two. Fill in the blank. Confidence comes from

Dr. Terry (58:30.509)
He did.

Daniel Schuler (58:30.656)
I can't take credit for that though. That's Earl Nightingale, but I've been using it for my whole life. Yeah.

Dr. Terry (58:35.773)
Mm-hmm.

Daniel Schuler (58:39.776)
Okay.

Daniel Schuler (58:45.256)
Knowing who you are regardless of.

Dr. Spencer Baron (58:48.269)
I love this guy. Question number three. Most people waste their lives because of what?

Daniel Schuler (59:00.104)
Mm.

Thinking they're God.

Dr. Spencer Baron (59:06.397)
I would have said procrastination. Because my dad used to always say this word, procrastination is the thief of time. I'm like I hear that all the time. Question number four. Favorite flavor of ice cream is

Daniel Schuler (59:11.296)
Mm-hmm.

Daniel Schuler (59:15.166)
Yeah.

Daniel Schuler (59:23.664)
Ooh. Either tiramisu or there's like a there's a a specific pistachio gelato from this place in in Florence that I just had probably nine gallons of every day when I was there. so good.

Dr. Spencer Baron (59:44.237)
That's a h heck of a lot better than Bluebell cookies and cream. yeah.

Daniel Schuler (59:47.767)
gosh, yeah. That's gotta come with a roll of toilet paper.

Dr. Terry (59:48.183)
Yeah.

Dr. Spencer Baron (59:56.749)
my god. I almost forgot question number five last one.

Daniel Schuler (59:57.43)
Daniel Schuler (01:00:01.535)
Ha ha.

Dr. Spencer Baron (01:00:03.309)
Question number five. Parents should stop saying

Daniel Schuler (01:00:16.584)
It doesn't matter.

Dr. Spencer Baron (01:00:19.853)
Daniel, you're the coolest man. Thank you so much for being on the show. I really, really we both appreciate it more than you can imagine. Thank you.

Daniel Schuler (01:00:24.16)
Thank you so much for having me.

It was awesome. Thank you.